Pink was serving up Cirque du Soleil realness for her 2014 Grammy performance. I can't even start with people saying that the Diva is repeating herself with these acrobatics. If you learnt a skill like that you're hardly going to leave it in the cupboard, gathering dust!
Pink is an entertainer in the truest sense of the word. This is someone who has absolutely no need to be putting her life in danger to hold a viewer's interest- her voice and music are enough to do so- yet she pushes herself to deliver these breathtaking visuals. That's something I personally find inspirational.
I was also thrilled to see her incorporate some of the choreography from the Try music video. That routine is art as far as I'm concerned, so am always thrilled to see it acted out, live. Kudos to the singer for giving kids a different kind of performance style to aspire to.
Check out Pink perform Try (yay) and Just Give Me A Reason (Booo, I still don't like this song) with Nate Ruess, below.
Thoughts?
I don't think she was repeating herself. Yes, it's still acrobatics, but with different moves and themes. She changed things up this time; it's not like she went up there and performed a carbon copy of the Glitter In The Air 2010 Grammy performance. Her vocals slayed too. Good job.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree!
ReplyDelete(almost) lol. I was not a fan Bey's performance, but this is not the place to discuss that.
ReplyDeleteYou know what, guys? Sometimes I think many stars just provoke and tease those illuminati weirdos to get their attention and have SEO service for free. :D
ReplyDeleteExorcizamus te, omnis immundus spiritus...
ReplyDeleteUnlike her glitter in the air performance which I saw a month ago I was terrified for her when I was watching this on my tv.
ReplyDeleteWas I the only one whom liked this? I found this live version to be far more compelling than the album version.
ReplyDeleteEven if it was a repeat - who wouldn't want to see Pink on silks again? Her performance was amazing and replay worthy which is not something I can say for many of the Grammy performances.
ReplyDeleteI feel like Royals isn't that hard of song to sing.. every time I've seen her sing it live (twice) it's she's struggling (vocally). I used to think (judge from videos and studio vocals) that she would be awesome live.. I can't imagine going to a Lorde concert.
ReplyDeleteAre we not going to discuss Nate's absolutely horrid vocals. WHAT WAS THAT??!?!? THANK GOD FOR PINK!
ReplyDeleteOh my JESUS! He was awful. It sounded as though his crotch was on fire or something. He was just screaming his ass off. I'm a fan of his band and work, however, he needs to stay his ass out of the 5th Octave. That Octave is no place for squeezed larynxes...dear mother of earth that was simply disdainful lol
ReplyDeleteTrust me, I'm no pro. I hardly know even a quarter of what's required of me to even be considered exceptional let alone a pro/professional lol. No need to be scared. As for as uploading the samples, you could simply create a YouTube channel and then post the link here. I'd be more than willing to listen :)
ReplyDeleteI cannot this Bitch nor her constant appropriation of the 'Exorcism of Emily Rose'. BYE.
ReplyDeletePINK SLAYED. Nate was a hot, steaming, mess...
ReplyDeleteI loved this performance. Go Pink.
ReplyDeleteOh hun, it's 2014 and blasphemy as entertainment, which you once called 'cheap', just doesn't work anymore.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I wonder about the people that aren't mad that some of these girls are causing Ms. Patti to question what happened to "Diva". And she has been clear that she is not discussing Xtina in this circle.
ReplyDeleteI don't think her technique is that bad. If it were, she'd almost certainly have more signigicant reduction of her voice than she has. She'd also most likely not be able to get through one concert much less a tour.
The thing is her belting is inspired by women who did it wrong as well but had voices that could "take it".
If you listen to old time Etta, her voice above the 5th octave is just not pretty. It's downright gritty to the max. It sounds unhealthy. But "Blues" goes with unhealthy sound, especially back then because it was about genuine hard life that they all lived.
I still hold that the people MOST should be angry at is Britney Spears. When I hear her as an influence, I want to ask the person, "How did she influence you?"
To me, she added nothing--not a signature voice--not signature moves. Nothing. But X, who at least braves singing live despite her botched technique is hung at the stake.
And when people say "Voice of a gen" that doesn't always nessecitate it being technically perfect, lest Lara Fabian would be the only diva around currently, with possibly Monica Naranjo--but she's caustic to many.
Please... Britney voice has always been weak and unsupported, to where she always sounds shaky. Plus she has never been able to sing with any power or volume let alone belt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTFKIm5fl3E
ReplyDeleteI dunno, he has a naturally high as fuckin' voice, and he has nailed "We are Young" with those multiple notes live. I think he was just tired here.
ReplyDeleteHe better stay in the 5th octave because his voice is so light and high that it's expected. An A4 wouldn't sound like much from him.
Ok can someone help me understand the "P!nk effect" (also known by other titles)
ReplyDeleteBasically, what happens in the P!nk effect and its variations are when a very talented artist with good music is never really talked about outside of when they perform.
This woman has been serving us all great vocals since she was on LaFace, singin' "There you go" but she doesn't seem to have a consistent "stanbase". Why?
Nicole Scherzinger has a similar effect, but she doesn't have any actual hits--P!nk does? O.O << >>
Demi lovato has a LOT of potential, but her voice can be a bit unstable some times. Obviously, with some more training and experience she'll be unstoppable :)
ReplyDeleteCould have done without the acrobatics as it felt a bit "done already". I would have preferred the whole dance routine instead but on the other hand..who cares? For me the best and most enjoyable performance of the show.
ReplyDeletethe production carries the song - but even then its a mediocre trap song at best
ReplyDeleteas for her vocals i dont think she deserves any articles on this blog because she is not a good vocalist to say the least and her choreography doesnt even compensate for that
i dont wanna bash her and i actually really like this song - but i just dont see the appeal in seeing her live
Don't see too many people I would actually call "ugly" but this girl is definitely one of them.
ReplyDeleteI also am pretty convinced this is another "milli Vanilli" kind of revelation waiting to happen where we are going to find out she is indeed 10 years older than claimed. ;-)
All of which has nothing to do with the music or performance but I think ThItFactor said it best "I dunno what to make of this girl. She intrigues and bores the shit out of me at the same time."
And hadn't heard her live yet..I rate her as Poor singer.
umm i also found her dance moves weird and idk how she won grammy with that song but don't you guys think that some of us going out of hand(not just here but on twitter tumblr) in making fun of this girl i mean she's human and i'm sure she would get hurt seeing all this
ReplyDeleteLOL No, I don't think she is reading this blog.
ReplyDeleteAnyway any artist or person in the public eye with the slightest sense would know better than to read what is being said about them on the internet.
However, personally I would not go to her twitter or facebook and say what I said. I am all for expressing my opinion but not for seeking out people's personal sites and say things which I know would be hurtful with the express intent to hurt that person.
Yeah. That makes sense. :)
ReplyDeleteagreed blew everyone away
ReplyDeletebut im still flabbergasted about katy perry performing
sure they may have not nominated and let miley perform at the grammys because the academy didnt find her "fit" to be featured on the show, but atleast the girl can sing
katy perry is allowed to perform and her vocals are boring and the staging and choreo and just the whole set up was very disney-ish
i just wanted to reply to you because i know ur a miley fan
i honestly dont care if she already did it before at the grammys
ReplyDeletethat is sooo hard delivering vocals while in mid air haha - not to mention the choreo from the try video is nicely implemented
kudos to someone delivering a grammy worthy performance
beyonce really disappointed me and p!ink saved the night
MEHHHHHHHHH
ReplyDeletethe vocals were okay in try but she shined thru just give me a reason because she wasn't focusing on moving around so much
ReplyDeletethank god for her though shes one of the few artists who delivers on vocals and has stage presence
OK, she's definitely vocally improved now that I rewatched it.
ReplyDeleteExactly, an acquaintance who is in the entertainment industry in Hollywood was mentioning how so many people blacklisted themselves by criticizing performers online during the Grammys. I told him somehow I doubt that the really commercially successful performers have time to go read blogs online, even for entertainment, unless they are masochists.
ReplyDelete[The 5th] octave is no place for squeezed larynxes. - Tell that to your fave rEGINE.
ReplyDeleteBest vocal of the night.
ReplyDeletedoes anyone of you have john legend performance video?i can't find anywhere :(
ReplyDeleteCould I send those samples to you privately?
ReplyDeleteeven queen of autotune THE selena gomez does this song better live
ReplyDeleteAs a Beyoncé fan: Beyoncé sang live at the Grammy's as much as she writes her own stuff... In other words, she didn't. :P
ReplyDeleteIt was an amazing performance anyway!
What part don't bring certifications you didnt' understand? These are just shipped copies not actual sales. Anyway here's reliable source you asked for http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/1555095/ask-billboard-belindas-back-jt-too-mariah-careys-album-sales?page=0%2C2 Daydream has sold 7,6M and MB 7,27M while Christina's debut 8,2M :) Eminem, Linkin Park, Shania outsold pretty much every pop star. UK is second biggest music market and the reason why platinum is "only" 300k there is because there is like 5x less people than in US lol. It's much easier now for popular artists to spend many weeks at no.1 thanks to current billboard formula than it was 15 years ago. If the formula was the same and digital sales existed back when lets say Dirrty was released it would probably be no.1 for weeks instead of peaking at no.48. Today certain singles can go no.1 thanks to parody videos lol.
ReplyDeleteP!nk is a fucking amazingly talented performer... Too bad I can't get into her music, what makes her performances boring to me.
ReplyDeleteI also wish she would stop doing aerial numbers... In the end of the day I prefered her AMA performance of Try.
Btw I'm not sure in what world having 2 albums in top 100 best selling albums of the decade isn't considered big, Apparently only in your own...Anyway further discussion with you seems pointless so I will stop here. bb
ReplyDeleteLOL. You better read!!!
ReplyDeleteevery singe has done a better cover of this song than lorde live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUxDKJNSoME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CULhsYCXusU
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what to think about the comments regarding her stage presence.
ReplyDeleteShe is the first female artist who has this expression while singing that we all know of the likes of Joe Cocker, Ian Curtis, Thom Yorke,, Peter Garrett etc.
She's married?
ReplyDeleteBeing married to a person of the opposite sex doesn't always mean you're straight, but yeah, she's married, and she has 1 child.
ReplyDeleteShut the f**k up, u dickheaded bastard! Go die in a hole.
ReplyDeleteEven though I totally agree with what you say, I don't approve the way you express it. There's no need to be mean.
ReplyDeleteFYI, Lorde critics, she came into instant stardom from humble surroundings in Auckland, NZ just a regular teenage girl in school. Having gone from never singing live before, to singing live at the Grammy Awards in under a year is a bit of a shock. And, just an FYI, she's an introverted, shy 17-year-old! Damn right she's gonna have anxiety singing live at the biggest musical event in the world. Give the girl a break, she's a breath of fresh air, with "Royals" hitting number one, she's finally revived pop music from inevitable death, by disproving the wretched "Pop Music Formula" as I call it.
ReplyDeleteAnd, for all those who criticize her appearance, duuuuuuuh you can control the genes you inherit about as much as you can control what other people think, say and do. She is a completely self-styled individual, get used to it! At least she's not twerking her way on a downward spiral of self-destruction and making everybody else watch her public train-wreckedness, like someone else we all wish would just disappear into a dark oblivion (cough.Miley.cough.Cyrus.cough). Whether you like Lorde or not, she is here to stay and she's not gonna conform to your expectations, so get used to it or get the fudge out!
Agreed, she'll rebound and do better
ReplyDeleteI don't approve many things Miley has done this two last years, but I don't find Lorde's rude and harsh comments against other stars much better than that. She really needs a punch in the face (then again, I mean a metaphoric one)
ReplyDeleteAs you wish, I think I've my points clear :)
ReplyDeleteThank you, at least somebody on here has a sense of this girl's amazing talent, she did deserve her Grammy's
ReplyDeleteLove your name choice, btw
So? Justin Bieber came from Youtube. & how can someone never have sing live before?
ReplyDeleteYou can say whatever you want about Miley twerking, but Miley can deliver a live performance vocally - with songs that are much more demanding than Royals.
I'm actually a huge fan of the song Royals. But this is the second time I heard Lorde sing it live and and it's so ughhhhh.
When you watch the Royals music video and then watch Lorde sing it live. It's like two different people/personality! You just wouldn't expect Music Video Lorde to be anything like Live Lorde.
ReplyDelete2 wrongs don't make a right.
ReplyDeleteShe was. Look at her albums. Including the spanish version of her debut. 1. Christina Aguilera 2. Mi Reflejo 3. My Kind of Christmas 4. Stripped 5. Back to Basics. They were all massive successful for their respective lanes. Even her greatest hits album, "Keeps Gettin' Better: A Decade of Hits" debuted in the top 10 of billboard top 200 albums, and the only single from the album debut at top 10, which was her 1st single to do so. Not to mention the album has sold about 500k or more. Then look at all her singles, and collaborations, include with past legends. All the praise she's received. Burlesque also was a very successful movie soundtrack, as well as the movie. The soundtrack itself is certified gold. She's been on 3 seasons of the voice successful, 5 Grammy Awards, various other awards. If I'm not mistaken she's had a #1 hit in decades of the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s, if not top 10. She's been awarded Voice of a Generation award by NCLR ALMA Award. I mean the list goes on and own. Christina is super successful, and the great thing about it, that's rare for a true artist of her caliber.
ReplyDeleteAnd ladies and gentlemen, there you have it.
ReplyDeleteEh, what can I say, I'm an impulsive person, I say (or write) before I think, I have no filter. I tend to be the one who says what others want to but don't. Story of my life
ReplyDeleteShe is extremely butch though, in a way I find rather off putting :/
ReplyDeleteI need my Divas to be glamorous and feminine, like a goddess.
Ah well, I love her the way she is. Different..and I'm always for that. Though, something a lot more sexier would be fitting. Her voice and performances make up for her "butchess" though.
ReplyDeleteLorde is something else. The only thing I like about her is her ease in the mid-lower third octave. With some training, she can really get a nice, deep and smoky vocal range than what she already has.
ReplyDeleteAs for the dancing, leave the girl alone. Let her do her thing lol.
It was really good. Her ease in the fifth octave has gotten better. Making me re-think her vocal type...seems to be a lyric soprano to me. Maybe with a thicker weight? Her voice sounds very....filled up..(lack of a better word)
ReplyDeleteI find you extremely off putting, your remarks about women's appearances on here is not only completely chauvinistic and intolerant, but also totally irrelevant to the abilities of the divas on this sight. There is a thing called "edgy appeal" that's what P!nk has, in addition to being an amazing
ReplyDelete1. Singer-songwriter
2. Dancer
3. Gymnast
4. Performer
5. Activist
Am I leaving anything out? I'll stop before my mouth (or thumbs) get me in trouble
You are clueless. Lorde has been performing almost her entire life. Don't be fooled. She was signed at a very young age (12 I think), and her career has been years in the making. There are videos of her singing when she younger on YouTube. From what I've seen, she's not a shy girl either. She speaks her mind and she's bold.
ReplyDeleteAs for Miley, I find it pathetic for other people to try to diss her in order to give a compliment to someone else. It's downright pathetic. She can most certainly sing and her shows are incredible. She's a great performer, I saw her on tour a few years ago. Very charismatic. She is far too self-aware to be a trainwreck. Notice how she does not bad mouth anybody in the media unlike a lot of celebs. She should be applauded.
OT: Fwd....
ReplyDeleteSo, this is finally out. Lana Del Rey's cover of the iconic 'Once Upon A Dream' for upcoming Disney film 'Maleficent'. Must say, I really love it. Simple, hauntingly beautiful sound, eerie and extremely atmospheric. Lana sounds amazing here, imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ44x0GnKh4
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ReplyDeleteMiley's album was not released within the right time frame. Nothing to do with "fit for the academy"
ReplyDelete"we can't stop" was in the right time frame and it was super successful also if academy wanted to they would have nominated it but they didn't
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p72t__EjDU
ReplyDeleteshe should have done pretty hurts it.....
ReplyDeleteWell realistically speaking and in spite of being a fan of Miley, I wouldn't call it worthy of being nominated best song.
ReplyDelete"successful" btw is not a measure in Grammy Awards.
imao http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/2014-grammy-awards-still-pushing-illuminati-agenda/
ReplyDeleteEeeeh, how to say this... The message wasn't meant for you.
ReplyDeleteSorry to get in the middle of the discussion (or argument, I'd say) but, what's really the point of it? I mean, is it supposed to lead somewhere or it's just for the sake of discussing? because as I see it, it has no use at all and it's only serving to make you both tense against each other :S
ReplyDelete"Look at her albums"
ReplyDelete1. Christina Aguilera (sold well, sold big, not huge) 2. Mi Reflejo (well) 3. My Kind of Christmas (well) 4. Stripped (sold well, sold big) 5. Back to Basics (mildly successful) 6. Bionic (the one that you chose not to mention became the standard for flop in pop music) 7. Lotus (gigantic flop)
"Even her greatest hits album debuted in the top 10"
#9, precisely. Pink's greatest hits was #5, Britney's greatest hits was #4 so I don't see how that is proof of her "huge success".
""She's been 3 seasons of the voice successful"
Yes, I said on my first post.
"5 Grammy Awards"
Beyoncé has 17, Rihanna and Taylor Swift each have 7, Adele has 10, Justin Timberlake has 9, Lady Gaga also has 5. Almost all of them with less career time.
"She's had a #1 hit in decades of the 1990s, 2000s, and 2010s"
True, it's a shame that between Lady Marmalade and Moves Like Jagged she let 10 years go by being HUGE without going #1. Oh, well.
"Christina is super successful, and the great thing about it, that's rare for a true artist of her caliber."
I think you mean she *was* super successful, because even if you still think she had this "OMG CHRISTINA IS GIGANTIC NO ONE SELLS LIKE HER AND SING LIKE HER OMG!" success, it's very hard to defend her current "success" after she flopped two albums in a roll and hasn't toured in 5 years (just for fun: google Lotus Tour and take a look at the comments), and hasn't managed to get a hit on her own since 2008.
"it's sad that you're so pressed that you want to belittle her accomplishments"
Oh, I'm very aware of her accomplisments, unlike her stanbase, which is constantly trying to hype her as if she is/was bigger than she actually is/was (both in talent and in success)
Look, I'm sure she's a nice person and her straining technique is unparalleled (She is the Strain of a Generation, after all), but that doesn't change the fact that she wasn't as successful as you want her to be. If you must lie to yourself in order to enjoy her music, well, that's you :)
"And Christina received Grammy's when they were actually relevant, [...]"
ReplyDeleteHow cute.
To some it is - i.e. the OP.
ReplyDeleteCan Pink just make my dreams come true and perform Let me Let You Know just once. She pretty much ignores the material from her first album :/
ReplyDeleteI think P!nk sounds great (and I don't even like her that much). Nate on the other hand needs to work on his tone when singing that high. I feel like it's a tenor cop out to change the shape of the words that much (to the point where it doesn't sound like a word anymore). That tone is another story.
ReplyDeletelol anything is worthy for grammys after "call me maybe" got nominated and psy won the award...
ReplyDeleteoops no psy only got nominated
ReplyDelete"Ugghh" in a good way or bad?
ReplyDeleteWhy the hell is huh nipple so black wen you can squint and she could pass fo a white gurl? Wouldnt she hav sum pepperoni or ham slice nipples. She eitha got her nipples tattooed black for Illuminati or those are titty tassels. I think they titty tassels. My grandaddy got some cuz he into dat kinky shit.
ReplyDeleteProbably the BEST version of this song, ever:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ik3YcHhuk
Does it look like I give a single shit about your opinion about me? LOL.
ReplyDeleteYour cunt like comment really annoyed me. Opie stop being a judgemental prick and lay off lordes physical appreance bitch.
ReplyDeleteuhm her second single wrecking ball was released in august.... couldn't that have been nominated
ReplyDeleteeven I recognize this was a big year for miley and should have been nominated....
And your crudity annoys me. Those are the disadvantages of free speech. The answer is of course...No, I will not change my behavior just because a foulmouthed Lordes stan is annoyed at reading the truth.
ReplyDeleteSuch annoyance is, in a way, of course the very basis for the whole concept of free speech. :-)
I was of course merely giving my opinion. (though that Call Me Maybe, which I had to look up first, has pretty good lyrics imo)
ReplyDeleteBut I generally feel that in the popular categories a lot of nominees aren't as worthy as non nominated songs and albums in the same time period.
I mean, in the Rock Performance I would have nominated Led zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love over Kashmir for instance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3mP3mJDL2k
ReplyDeleteThe music video is here and Shakira is freaking sexy! She might be able to turn me straight. Nah, just kidding. too gay for that :*
Rap/Hip-Hop songs normally have more writers because the genre samples lots of songs, and when sampling the original writers have to get their due. Rap/Hip-Hop has been based off sampling since the days of Biggie with Juicy to Kanye who really popularized it even more.
ReplyDeleteYes, her voice most definitely leans towards that of a Full- Lyric Soprano, in spite of her Mezzo- coloring. That room in which she was singing in quite deceitful though; the walls are far too hollow thus it creates such a solid echo of sound - which is why I began to question whether or not she was a 'Spinto...' - Her voice was resonating above C#5 far too powerfully. : = D
ReplyDelete"... Nearly even through a Chair" - LMFAO. I know right? I WISH she would've captured that darn A5 though. My face was BEAMING as she neared closer to that part; I was on the edge of my seat, waiting. LOL. Nonetheless, it was superb.
Well Glitter in the Air's performance is very similar to Get The Party Started that she used to perform to acrobatics years ago (I don't know if she still does because I've not seen her live since 2007-8). And her vocals "slayed" because she quite obviously was miming to Try - there is no possible way that someone's vocals can be that clean, pitch perfect, powerful and resonant while hanging upside down doing all that, and it's a bit disappointing to hear her lipping because she very rarely does and I don't think she has before while doing acrobatics, so why this time I wonder?
ReplyDelete"Ancient" like who? If you mean the likes of Madonna and Metallica, they were probably the oldest there yes, but also the most iconic and accomplished than the majority of the others out together. But yeah, I agree as a whole that the performances were not on par with previous years'.
ReplyDeleteI'd say about 90% of all lesbians love P!nk - nearly all the ones I know (and that's a lot) do. In terms of Nicole, I'm not quite sure - she's had quite a few solo big-ish hits (in the UK anyway) but she doesn't do a lot of performances nor release a lot of music, but she was very popular on The X Factor.
ReplyDeleteShe wore a very tight-fitting dress, so surely she's not that butch.
ReplyDelete"Actress
ReplyDeleteYes it is very hard to deliver vocals while in mid-air, especially such perfect and clean vocals - I'm almost certain she lipped that performance, which generally speaking isn't a bad thing as we know she can sing and it was more about the visuals BUT she's done this kind of performance before for other songs and done it LIVE, so it baffles and disappoints me slightly that she'd then cop out and seemingly mime this one.
ReplyDeleteMiley isn't a particularly great singer either...
ReplyDeleteI believe P!nk also lipped Try though...
ReplyDeleteHer vocals are so on point that it makes me believe she also lipped, and that's kinda disappointing and strange because as far as I know she's never lipped acrobatic performances before.
ReplyDeleteThe song is forgettable in my opinion and this performance was rather baffling and little boring - I'll admit this is first time I heard the song properly as I don't follow Beyonce's music and haven't done so properly since B'day. I don't know or care about the lipping really but what made me cringe more was the lovey-dovey thing she and Jay-Z had going on in this and the night whenever the cameras swept past or zoomed in on them… Ugh.
ReplyDeletelol i swear i came across two kids who were copying her "surfboard"thingy,when they'll get to know what surfboard means in this song they will be so embarrassed
ReplyDeleteShe was not lipping Try. She was singing along with a backing track. There's a difference. Lipping is just miming to the studio track, which was not the case here.
ReplyDeleteI honestly wouldn't be surprised 'cause empirically she's been known to lip-sync A LOT. Then again, seeing as she's got excellent technique and breath support, I'm not all that sure if she did. Given her technique she doesn't really need to, I don't think. But, lip syncing is no stranger to her so she probably did. She's got a record for lip syncing at Huge Events. At the end of the day, who cares? We all know she can sing.
ReplyDeleteLipping does not necessarily mean miming to the studio track - many artists re-record their songs to sound different to the original to make it seem live then sing along with it or mime. To me it sounded either completely lipped or that her actual singing was so minimal and low compared to the backing track, especially during the chorus where she's fully upside down.
ReplyDeleteIn due time we'll find out. I think she just may possibly be in her prime. Being on Broadway is no easy feat to tackle, even for the strongest of singers. Now that she's entered the scene they've got her voice in a seemingly relentless workout. It seems as though the magnitude of the work is quickly molding her voice into greater shape...definitely much greater than it was during the inaugural season the X-Factor USA. There, she was arguably a Lyric Soprano to Lyric Mezzo. She can be a tricky one to figure out. One thing she does lack is accuracy in the Soprano area, but she's just inconsistent.
ReplyDeleteBut yes, when I'm excited I tend to behave rather erratically lol When I hear singing as well as THAT, I'm like a child who's eager and excited once they arrive at Disney World for the very first time. Honestly haha. I'm one of those pathologically excited people haha. And when I hear beautiful, Erie harmonies I spin in circle, I kid you not lol She was stellar!
I agree. Her voice was never THIS solid & resonant when she was on the X-Factor and back then, week-by-week, the tessitura's she would sing in would always fluctuate between Soprano & Mezzo-Soprano. For now, there's no doubt in my mind that she may very well be a 'Full- Lyric Soprano' but because of her inconsistency within the fach, I wouldn't hesitate to call her an undeveloped 'Spinto' possibly. But, as you said, time will tell...
ReplyDeleteOkay. So, Sasuke, here is a "Male Version" (Pitch Shifted) of Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You'. Isn't this just absolutely INCREDIBLE? I know there's a Man out there who can sing JUST like this, I know it... LOL. By the way, arguably, this has been changed to suit a 'Baritone' correct? Perhaps a 'Kavalier [Spinto] or an extremely Full- Lyric Baritone? The coloring & quality of the chest notes are far too dark, thick and masculine for any kind of Tenor unless he were a Dramatic/Heldon but the head/falsetto notes are very Tenoral. The highest notes (chorus belts) in the song are F4 - G4 aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMoNhX9lEGM
I never expected her to be singing completely live when she was upside down. That's nor really possible/comfortable/healthy. Too much pressure on her diaphragm. But yes, I get what you're trying to say. I just think she was actually singing along to the backing track, even if she wasn't able to keep up at times.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8tK1rGpog
ReplyDeleteI totally agree!
ReplyDeleteVocally, 2013 was a horrible year for Demi. Good thing she's working with a vocal coach now.
ReplyDeleteWhen did Demi say she's recording already? I doubt she'll have time with her tour. Ariana will probably release hers sometime during the summer, and Demi sometime early next year
ReplyDeleteits lipped hahehu
ReplyDeleteDemi is famed between producers for working harder than a mule, and judging by her tweets she seems to be even more enthusiastic, so I woldn't be surprised if she released her new album this year. Also, if I recall properly, she did say that she was gonna record a new album this year in her twitter (I'm too lazy to check it out, though...)
ReplyDeleteI know she'll be touring during the first half of the year, maybe she'll release a new album during the second. It wouldn't be surprising, considering how her last two singles were not successful and Hollywood Records doesn't like to release more than two or three singles per album.
ReplyDeleteIn an interview Demi stated that she would like to release her fifth studio album sometime mid-2014. Ariana's already in the process of recording her second album so we'll see.
ReplyDeleteIsn't it? I was wondering what voice type she was. It's so super light. If it weren't for her ability to belt so high/sound like Mariah (post 2005-riah once she lost her heft), I feel she'd be not as known.
ReplyDeleteWell, then that observer did not pay sufficient attention.
ReplyDeleteI very clearly only criticized Asians from a certain region and also only on the subject of English comprehension.
When exactly did I claim someone had to be "more humble because the person was Asian"???
Sounds more like you ingested some modern version of "liberal" rhetoric where you see racism everywhere.
I just think I identified a trend in the understanding of English by a group of people hailing from a certain part of Asia.
I am by no means claiming this makes them inferior in any other way than in understanding the English language. And as a result, communicating in that language.
I also happen to think when it comes to size of vocabulary and use of grammar, the group I criticized is usually better than your average American.
Nowhere btw did I claim my grammar or vocabulary is anywhere near perfect. As for my writing v Sasuke's stylistically..well now, that is a matter of taste I'd say.
"publishable standard" ? Well, that again is your opinion. Suffice it to point out, that is a pretty broad standard and I know a couple of professional English teachers who don't agree with your assessment. Be it on my style or my level of fluency.
All in all, considering Sasuke is living in and being educated in an English speaking nation where as I neither grew up in nor ever lived in any native English speaking nation and my official education on the subject is pretty minimal...I AM going to take the fact that I "sound more like the average native speaker of English" as a compliment. ;-)
Yes I express strong opinions.
Where you go wrong is in assuming I have any intent of persuading others to agree with me. My desire is for the other to understand my opinion and maybe argue it with argument.
I also do not feel I need to substantiate any opinion. It's an OPINION!
I do feel one needs to substantiate any argument. Which is something I happen to think I usually do pretty well.
As for you discussing music..feel free. Nobody is forcing you to read or participate in any discussion on any other subject. But do you ever? Because tbh...I don't see too many "guests" doing so on this blog and even within that tiny group, there is of course no way of saying whether this is the same individual or a different one each time.
Well leith, my original point was to agree, then it became an effort to explain what and why I was agreeing.
ReplyDeleteBut I can't believe you still don't know I enjoy discussing for the sake of discussing? ;-)
And anytime someone wants to go there, I am all too happy to join them.
Still a mystery to me why some people seem to think that is a negative thing. I always learn something from it on some level.
LoL She is becoming pretty notorious for doing it.
ReplyDeleteShe does?
ReplyDeleteI can't stand the X factor era too. I heard that she's working with vocal trainers. So as long as she's not considering herself as the best vocalist in the world (such as Christina Aguilar), I think she still has hope.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I've seen several videos of lorde performing live. She tends to throw away notes and is pitchy on high notes.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMkGC25R7M
ReplyDeleteHow would you classify her.
Range, C3-Bb5 (Bb5 Belted)
Best Region of her Voice, Upper
Head Voice, Moderate to Average
Whistle Register, None
Upper-Register, Superb to Legendary
Lower-Register, Good to Moderate
Legendary-Superb-Good-Moderate-Average-Downright Terrible
Don't be. My voice sounds horrible in the Upper-Register. Period. What's your range? Mine is G2-F6 but I only hit F6 about once a week depending on the usage of my voice. I don't even know my voice type :P
ReplyDeleteWhitney was UNTOUCHABLE during her Prime to Pre-2000 years. Even some of her performances during the 2000's-2010 era were AMAZING! Since she was a Soprano does that mean that's why she could easily transition into her Head Voice so well and precisely? I can go to my Head Voice easily but I'm not a Soprano.
ReplyDeleteDo you know a good way to say to someone "Stop using that stupid technique!" My friend is a vocal phenomenon and she's only 10. She's a natural Soprano but she darkens her voice to sound like a Mezzo. She doesn't understand a thing about music besides from instruments. She listens A LOT to Christina Aguilera and I think she wants to sound like Christina Aguilera. Worst part, she doesn't even know she's doing it. Her voice when not darkened is just like Christina's and she can belt really high for a 10 year old up to D5 according to my piano teacher and she can go as low as C3 and she's getting better every day but I'm worried she's using a bad technique.
ReplyDeleteSome people claim that it's easier to access head voice easier as a Soprano but I personally don't believe that's true. Some females can't even access head voice and instead use Falsetto. It depends on the person and if they truly know how to use their Head Voice. If it comes easy to them then it does, but I don't think it's innate to a certain fach.
ReplyDeleteShe's a Soprano. The best region of her voice is upper. Head Voice is decent. Upper register? Not bad at all. Lower Register? Meh, could be better. I wouldn't say she's Legendary. She's good.
ReplyDeleteThat's quite natural. She's young. Of course she'll emulate singers she's mostly influenced by. If she's using bad technique (lowering her larynx, screaming to get to high notes) let her know so she can be aware and save her voice while she still can.
ReplyDeleteShe's not shouting the high notes but she is lowering her larynx to achieve that powerful almost Dramatic sound. She does Opera so I'm kind of surprised she barely knows anything about techniques, registers, etc. Her voice when not emulating Christina sounds like a Soprano but when she lowers her larynx, she sounds so mature and almost Cher-like. When I ask her if she feels pain or strain, she says no.
ReplyDeleteYeah. She's easily demolished by other Soprano's but her voice reminds me so much of Patti's for some reason. LOL
ReplyDeleteIt's F#2-B5, connected. But there's some really strange f***ery going on when having the chords fairly closed from G#5 and above, where it's basically just vocal fry. It stops around D#6, there I can go to an F#6 in head voice and from C#6 to G#6 in whistle ._. You see, my HV isn't the best either
ReplyDeletelmao. ain't thought about that movie in years.
ReplyDeleteWell you can say what you want about German critics being mainly negative but we both know that's a lie buddy. It obviously wasn't all lipped and if you think it was I worry for your wellbeing.
ReplyDeleteMy voice sounds really bad as if I were a suicidal cat in the Upper-Register so I stay G3-C6 for me. I hate Low-Register (Except when Toni sings). My Head Voice can go as high Eb6 and I love my Head Voice. As for my belting range... I can barely belt an F4 lol
ReplyDeleteNo, wait it's not even that complicated. there's a break from A5 to B5. I can't sing any note above Bb5 on 'a' or else I'll crack and cry. From there I can go to a D ( ;D (sorry, not sorry)) and everything above is a really horrible whistle ._.
ReplyDeleteAs in belting, strangely as my technique improved my belting range decreased by a semitone. I can "only" belt an F5 now but it sounds heady as hell.
My focus now is on my mid voice anyway, manipulating the timbre and stuff...
Did you train your falsetto and head voice or is your range naturally so large?
It's naturally large I just hit random notes and my music teacher's like, "You just hit an Eb6!" Sometimes my Head Voice is so opera-like I literally sound like a woman. I don't think I'll keep my Head Voice forever. My Whistle Register is horrible (I cannot stress it enough lol) and I hate belting because mine sounds really bad.
ReplyDeleteWhether someone is a better songwriter or has a better stage presence is subjective, not fact. P!nk has written some great songs (the majority for her second album) but I could list just as many, if not more, that Christina has that are just good (in my opinion). And anyway, those that even pay attention to what critics say - especially the buying public before they decide whether to buy someone's music, is to me, rather brainless. But I haven't heard many critics who are that knowledgeable of music and singing who have criticised her technique - most of them are "know-it-alls" on sites like these and Youtube that worship technically brilliant vocalists.
ReplyDeleteHer voice's gotten darker, but thinner? I this song maybe, but i think it's an stylistical choice.
ReplyDeletein*
ReplyDeleteAs far as I'm concerned he's already done scenes like that in my mind ;D
ReplyDelete@Divadevotee are you doing more requests?
ReplyDeletethis is how close we have come. And I'm still complaining. Oh well
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It's never gonna be enough when it comes to a sexy man like that ;)
ReplyDeleteMarketing, and its working.
ReplyDeletesure! Might take years to see it done though...lol
ReplyDeleteThis video doesn't really show how versatile falsetto truly is. All this does is leave people confused because some times falsetto can be rounded and emulate HV. In fact Falsetto and HV can be mixed together if I recall.
ReplyDeleteWell, it did help me. I now can distinguish them with quite an ease (I guess I may get some wrong, but in general I don't make mistakes anymore). However, my point wasn't that the video was good, just that I love Christina's falsetto in it haha
ReplyDeleteBTW, I have a question, are falsetto and whistle actually healthy? even when using proper technique, I don't think that letting all that air go through your vocal chords can be too good for them :S
This woman is mezzo.. no way a contralto :P the same type of voice what i have ( range vise and by my vocal coach who is classically trained opera singer i'm a mezzo, light.. but have some dramatic undertones in lower part )
ReplyDeleteThis profile needs updating, badly. She's improved immensely since this was last edited. Actually, a lot of the profiles on here need to be updated.
ReplyDeleteSelena hits a good 6th octave note. She should do that more often.
ReplyDeleteSelena can sing. Plus, you should think twice about what you said before you say it.
ReplyDeleteI never heard the 6th octave note. Never...
ReplyDeleteSelena's highest note live without going super off-key and without sounding super weak would be her D5s live. She cannot sing the F#5 live, at least she has not been seen singing it live. Her comfortable range is probably from E3 to E5(2 octaves) only... The other one note and 1 semitone would kill her if she tried any notes higher than E5 live...
she is not that good... it's just the truth! I wouldn't say she's really bad but, just not fit for a real singer :/
ReplyDeleteShe IS a great actor though!
She's not a lesbian you idiot. She's married to Carey Heart, serious motorcross DUDE and they have a child. Pink is an out of the box talented performer that sings, writes and entertains incredibly well.
ReplyDeleteYOU need YOUR Divas to be glamorous...Maybe you should go be one then. Pink is gorgeous and muscular, she is and looks like most competitive gymnasts. She uses gymnastics in her singing because it's part of her. She doesn't do tricks for the sake of tricks ala Miley C. Her first dream was to be an Olympic gymnast, she's been one since she was young. She doesn't lip sync & if she sings to a track she has good reason, it keeps the vocals smooth. I've always loved her beautiful piano playing and powerful singing.
ReplyDeletesay what you wanna say(lol lyrics fr brave) but she can sing but sometimes its like she has been autotune she should sing more of the song that can show how beautiful her voice is..
ReplyDeleteButchness isn't a negative trait, she isn't "making up" for anything.
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